Comments on: JavaFX?

By: Chui Tey

Chui Tey — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:10:39 +0000

HTML is fine if not for the problem of browser compatibility bugs. Sometimes, you can’t dictate what browsers your customer runs, and that includes IE6. No one really enjoys debugging browser quirks because any changes you make forces you to retest for other browsers again.

By: shamaz

shamaz — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 07:37:31 +0000

Adobe is making AIR (which indeed is based on flash and flex).
In my point of view, AIR, GWT, eclipse RCP and JavaFX are aiming for *enterprise* applications (mostly used on private networks). A proof, is that they provide good integration on Eclipse or Netbeans. They keyword often used is _Rich_ client or application…
Silverlight and flash have a different goals -> being used everywhere on the web (on website like youtube). (Even if Silverlight CAN do more that ‘beautiful animations and videos’ with XAML)

By: Leen Toelen

Leen Toelen — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 05:58:46 +0000

Adobe IS flash, they have bought Macromedia a while ago, and are pushing the edges of Flash with their Flex programming environment. They also released some of their specifications of the flash protocols and file formats for other implementations. And the Flex IDE is based on eclipse, which is nice as well.
So when anyone wants to replace flash, they’ll have a very hard time I guess.

By: Mark Wielaard

Mark Wielaard — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:23:44 +0000

The funniest thing is that if you actually try and download a copy of JavaFX is comes with such a proprietary license that if you would actually follow its terms you cannot actually use it for anything…

It has such funnies as:

“Licensee is not authorized to modify, make derivative works of, disclose, distribute, reverse engineer or disassemble the Technology, decompile binary portions of the Technology, or otherwise attempt to derive source code from such portions, or transfer the Technology to any third party or use it in development activities.”

“Licensee shall have no right to use the Technology for commercial uses or in a production environment.”

“Java Technology Restrictions. You may not create, modify, or change the behavior of, or authorize your licensees to create, modify, or change the behavior of, classes, interfaces, or subpackages that are in any way identified as “java”, “javax”, “javafx”, “sun” or similar convention as specified by Sun in any naming convention designation.”

Sigh, you would hope Sun would get it by now, but apparently not :{

By: Uzytkownik

Uzytkownik — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:34:09 +0000

1. Well - I guess that the real combination to fight Flash int name of the standards is XHTML + JS + CSS + SVG.
2. > I don’t get why companies invest in things
Because the web is ‘interactive’ and create ‘new experience’.
3. The only things I imagince flash & co. is useful are:
- games (for performance issues - however with the new JS engines…[1])
- video[2] - you cannot do it in JS[3]

[1] And the fact that noone can see the code
[2] However - OGG/Theora please
[3] I’m aware of video HTML 5 element. However to be honest - nobody will use it before IE 6/7 die. And it will not be soon.